S1E02 | Manners Through the Years and Why Everyone can Afford to Have Them. With Lisa Clifford, writer and journalist
“The fundamental ingredients that define a genuine civilization are civic virtues, courtesy, consideration and good manners.” - Prince Charles.
Join Jodie and Lisa Clifford to unpack the need for universal kindness and patience.
Join Jodie and Lisa Clifford as we unpack the need for universal kindness and patience. Good manners and etiquette are universal. Or are they? With frequent cross-continental travel, increasing awareness of different cultures and our ability to talk to anyone at any time - are good manners still a unifying force? Or are they isolating us from different cultures?
In this episode of What Would June Dally Watkins Do? We are joined by Lisa Clifford, a celebrated writer and journalist and June Dally Watkins’ daughter. Today, Lisa talks to us about Miss Dally’s early life, how her humble beginnings formed her determination to teach etiquette to women from all walks of life, and how her ambition saw her leave behind a romance with famous actor Gregory Peck to return to Australia to start her Personal Development school. Touching on the “stigma” of being a “Dally’s Girl”, Lisa also takes us through what it was like to grow up with such a highly respected mother and what Miss Dally’s key message to young people would be today (besides moisturising your elbows of course!).
Episode highlights:
- “The Fundamental ingredients that define a genuine civilization are…” - 02:18:32
- Can grace be woven into good manners and etiquette - 03:47:59
- Is there an advantage to being June Dally Watkins’ daughter? - 04:55:17
- “Knowing good manners is accepting that others don’t” - 09:35:42
- Good manners across cultures - 10:33:81
- Leo’s first date - 11:49:81
- “Learning by example” - 12:13:24
- Manners as a sign of weakness? - 13:32.25
- “A global understanding of patience and consideration” - 16:26.48
- Advocating for a smile - 17:28.80
- “The Joy Fairy” - 18:27.76
- Can a smile be seen as a weakness? - 19:17.28
- How much does “opportunity” have to do with manners? - 21:11.54
- School of deportment - 24:24.33
- The June Dally Watkins “Brainwashing” - 26:07.57
- “She’d be the first person to say I was a crap wife” - 28:31.13
- The June Dally Watkins “stigma” - 29:53.35
- “Get out there, girl!” - 30:20.72
- “Does it matter where you come from, what your background is?” 34:17.87
- “How do you switch the switch that says you are beautiful?” 35:03:47
- Social Media -38.12.81
- “The Etiquette Police” - 41:02.47
- How we treat each other matters - 42:07.04
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About your guest, Lisa Clifford:
Lisa Clifford grew up in Sydney. She moved to Italy when she was sixteen and returned to Australia after winning a scholarship to the Australian, Film, Television and Radio School. Following a career in journalism that includes reporting for 2GB, Mix FM and Channel 10 news, Lisa was associate producer of Channel 10 Late News. Throughout her career, she continued to travel to Italy, corresponding for 2UE, ABC’s Radio National and the Voice of America News Service. Lisa contributes opinion pieces, guides and lifestyle articles on Italy to The Australian, The Australian Financial Review, Gourmet Traveller and a range of other magazines and newspapers. She is the author of Walking Sydney, The Promise - an Italian Romance, Death in the Mountains (winner of the Victorian Premier’s Award for writing about Italians) and Naples – A Way of Love (Australian Illustrated Book of the Year Award). Lisa lives in Florence, Italy.
About your host, Jodie Bache McLean from June Dally Watkins and Chic Management:
“Miss Dally was and remains one of the most significant women in my life. She was my boss, mentor and cherished leader for the past 36 years.” - Jodie
Jodie has been a part of June Dally Watkins for over 40 years, after her mother enrolled her in a course to help with her confidence when she was a teenager - Jodie then started working in the model agency as a booker only seven years later. Jodie now manages the business and has successfully navigated the Brisbane operation for the past 33 years.
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Creators and Guests
Host
Jodie Bache-Mclean
Jodie has been a part of June Dally Watkins for over 40 years, after her mother enrolled her in a course to help with her confidence when she was a teenager - Jodie then started working in the model agency as a booker only seven years later. Jodie now manages the business and has successfully navigated the Brisbane operation for the past 33 years. Offering specialised knowledge, personal experience and expertise, Jodie is perfectly suited to tell us what June Dally Watkins would do.
Guest
Lisa Clifford
I wrote The Promise, Death in the Mountains & Naples - A Way of Love. I run The Art of Writing writers retreat in Tuscany.
